That's new: she is playing her real self. How the heck are they going to put the real Bo Derek in the plot...I am curious.
And she had a forbidden romance with one of the characters? I am still betting on Casey, but I was pretty amused by the suggestions of an affair with Big Mike during his Earth, Wind, Fire & Rain days or with Jeff in the 80's. Jeff is a mystery after all.
("is it a baby or is it a snail? I can't tell" - hahaha, Jeff is so moronic).
Whatever they are planning, you know it will suck. Because they have NEVER been able to make the big story arcs pay off well. The closest was in season 2 and even that was wrapped up much too neatly with the promise of bigger things... which turned out to be lame.
Through history, celebrities have been used as government spies because of their ability to gain access to places where others might not be able to travel. Also, no one bats an eye when a celebrity travels all over the world.
So, Bo Derek being a spy or some such wouldn't be totally out there as a concept.
On the subject of logic and Chuck, this whole being broke thing is starting to annoy me.
$877M is A LOT of money. The approximate annual budget of the actual CIA is around $30-40B (google) with something like 20,000 employees, which works out to $2M/person/yr in total expenditure, and their hands are in pretty much everything globally. I know there's some overhead issues and startup costs and such, but are we really expected to believe that in a few months of operation, Carmichael Industries has had average per person expenditures 100 times that of the CIA?
As for the cost of running the Buymore, let's assume that Buymore = Best Buy in the real world. Best Buy has a total market capitalization of around $9B and over 1,000 stores worldwide. Again, the numbers are nonsensical for Chuck and company to be broke.
POTENTIAL SPOILER NOT YET PUBLISHED HERE:
Last bit of ranting regarding buying a house. Chuck and Sarah live in Echo Park, which is within about 30 minutes of both San Marino and La Crescenta, the two top rated school districts in the whole of California. Assume Chuck is thinking about these things, which he clearly is based on what we know about him. If he set aside 1 part in 500 of the money Volkov game them, that's $1.7M. While that won't get you a massive place in San Marino or Flintridge (the fancier part of La Canada), it will get you a nice house in either. The notion that Chuck couldn't have set that aside to buy a house for his wife and future kids is idiotic.
I have been apprehensive about the whole "running out of money" thing since first hearing about it. I feared that if I did the math it would get worse, so I filed it under "things I don't want to think too hard about".
It's the same file where I have actual European train schedules because if I ever think about how fast you can get from Paris to Zurich on a train it ruins "Honeymooners" for me.
For "Honeymooners" maybe you can assume they just kept going back and forth between Paris and Zurich. Either that or there's a wormhole or something.
Jim
P.S. My rant should have referenced La Canada, not La Crescenta. The latter is the next town over and even more affordable by current Bartowski standards.
You know the real reason they won't get a house is the same as why Devon and Ellie--two successful doctors--don't. You are not going to build new standing sets in the 5th year of a show that is losing money.
All Chuck and Sarah (and the audience) needs is a bed and nothing else...we do not care where it is, if it has 4 walls, has a nieghbourhood, it could be in the middle of a park, highway, airport, bar, etc...just provide that with a little bit of action to go along. jeesh! LOL.
The show thought it was going to get cancelled and so they threw a hail mary they never thought they would have to follow through on, lol. But to be fair! They have been throwing them since season 3 and how did that work out? they put chuck and sarah together, engaged them, married them! So one time they did two stupid things (morgansect and loads of money)..they are doing alright.
"Jim... get over it. They ran out of money. Next."
Bah! Humbug.
"So one time they did two stupid things (morgansect and loads of money)"
I think the loads of money was probably a mistake, but I don't really know about the Morgansect. It's all going to depend on execution. It might turn out to be a flash (heh) of brilliance.
I hated that they had the money in the first place, so I'm glad they are losing it.
The casting so far just seems like they went around the room and asked who each had a crush on as a kid then casted them. Its probably not the worst way to go.
I cannot believe the season has not even started and people are already crapping on it...yikes! I suppose the next thing will be someone taking offence to the photo of Morgan and Sarah dancing! lol, do not worry peeps..nothing there...Chuck still gets the semi naked Sarah trying to unlock his lips...if only they actually get him out of those crappy clothes! I wish he could just wear suits, I hate the chucks and buymore rag, it does not do him any justice.
Also if he put on 30 - 40 pounds of muscle on...Oh my lord...he would be like the perfect male specimen! Then again, he would be like twice Sarah's size, so....nah! he would be gorgeous, not that he is not now, but put a little bit of wieght on the legs and other areas...oh my lord!
@Gina I saw that photo too ! :) how awesome would it be if get to see a Sarah/Morgan dance scene like the famous lambada Sarah/Bryce scene with a big kiss in the end ? ! ? ! ? ! can't wait to see the first episode, please Magnus spoil us a little :)
I remember when I used to get so pissed off when people crapped on the show... but now I barely care. This is like senior year. I am enjoying the end but looking forward to it being over so I can move on... at least in some respect.
I am sure I will be posting CHUCK related news until I am 50.
Not to be insensitive but a wise man once said that Kristen Kreuk is wayyyy toooo attractive for Joshua Gomez....sadly so is Yvonne Strahovski...I say that in the most pleasant way possible, so that is gonna be a no go. Plus Morgan would never do that to his best buddy, kiss his wife! it would be funny and a little creepy and a little odd/wierd a 6ft giant blonde shemale kissing a 5ft 2 midget...
AdriaN'S, that would not be funny. First of all when Sarah kissed Bryce she was not in a relationship let alone MARRIED! second, she had a history with Bryce, thirdly..Morgan would not even do that to his Bro. Did you see in first fight that when he went to touch her heart, he actually only put his fingertips on her collarbone and it was so gentle I doubt that her shirt touched her skin...So no, I highly doubt Morgan will try and plaster one on Sarah. Unless he wants to die at the hands of Chuck, hehehe
It's funny that people are noting height difference between Yvonne and Josh. When I watched the DVD extra with them together and Yvonne had flats on, the height difference wasn't that remarkable. She just has to wear really high heals most of the time on the show to pair up with Zac.
Glad to hear about more Morgan and Sarah scenes Joshua Gomez and Yvonne Strahovski are so good together They are the best costars from Chuck in interviews and their behind the scenes footage from season five is so sexy,funny and sweet you can tell they have a blast spending time together Can someone please post a link with the pictures of Morgan and Sarah dancing ? is there a video too ?
The mantra of Chuck fans: June: "October can't come soon enough" July: "I miss my Chuck" August: "The wait is killing me" September: "I dying here without Chuck" October: "It's coming! Finally!" November: "This season sucks"
I'm ambivalent about the "losing all the money" thing, although it bugs me a bit because it makes Chuck and Sarah look like morons. Although, I too avoid too much logical thought on it, I just try to laugh at the absurdity of those things and go with it. I've strangely been wondering about the housing thing all summer (I have a tendency to focus on the oddest details with this show). I came to pretty much the same conclusion as MediaSavant did- that budget wise it seemed impossible they would build a whole new set just for Chuck and Sarah to have sexytimes and conversation in. Also, I think story-wise it would be difficult. There are a lot of humorous situations and plot points that occur because all of the characters live within 10 ft of each other. Think about Devon running over to shove a gun down his pants and alert the CIA in Vs. The Leftovers. Stuff like that couldn't happen if one of the character groups, particularly Chuck and Sarah, lived someplace else.
I think it's more that the viewing public has been conditioned by 70 years of usually stagnant, boring TV to expect no changes at all. Kudos to Chuck for mixing things up now and then.
I think a small group of Chuck fans will dislike season 5 immensely because of Morgan being the intersect.
On the IMDB message boards there was about five or six people saying how season 4 sucked and it was the worst season in the history of television.
If the episodes are otherwise good, funny and entertaining they will still dislike it simply because Morgan is the intersect and the shows not like it was during season 2.
So I expect negative responses from them and people like them.
I admit i don't like that Morgan is the intersect and i'm not feeling good that the final story arc that Decker was talking about will be any good.
It also appears Morgan will be keeping the Intersect longer than I had hoped.
Personally, I'm curious to see if the "last season" attitude has that much of an effect on people after the episodes air. I know personally I don't feel as worked up as I normally would over certain things I think might bug me. I'm wondering if other people are going in with the attitude of taking it easy on nitpicking things and just enjoying the final ride. One can hope...
It is one thing to say "I don't like Morgan" blah blah blah... but belittle the actor directly and you make an exclusive list of people whose comments I will delete every time, until they stop posting.
Since Chuck seems to be in a guest star frenzy mode, how about getting Bo Jackson and John Schneider in the same episode as Ms. Derek. They can play something by Bo Didley in the background. A veritable Bo-fecta.
This AdriaN'S guy/articulateSchnook is the same guy on IMDB trash talking the actors of chuck except Zac Levi.his mouth is spitting poison http://www.imdb.com/user/ur26147155/boards/profile/ anti-trolls
That's new: she is playing her real self. How the heck are they going to put the real Bo Derek in the plot...I am curious.
ReplyDeleteAnd she had a forbidden romance with one of the characters? I am still betting on Casey, but I was pretty amused by the suggestions of an affair with Big Mike during his Earth, Wind, Fire & Rain days or with Jeff in the 80's. Jeff is a mystery after all.
("is it a baby or is it a snail? I can't tell" - hahaha, Jeff is so moronic).
I may be suffering from "special guest star" fatigue. This one isn't doing much for me.
ReplyDeleteIt would be kind of interesting if it turned out Bo Derek was a secret plot concocted by the CIA
ReplyDeleteWhatever they are planning, you know it will suck. Because they have NEVER been able to make the big story arcs pay off well. The closest was in season 2 and even that was wrapped up much too neatly with the promise of bigger things... which turned out to be lame.
ReplyDeleteIf it's revealed that Bo Derek use to date John Casey and while meeting him again she finds out that he's dating Carrie Anne Moss.
ReplyDeleteI'll be okay with that.
Chuck and Sarah would find this out and they wouldn't like it because the Carrie Anne Moss character works for a rival spy organization.
I'll also be okay with it if it's revealed that Bo Derek once had a fling with Jeff, Lester or Big Mike.
It is strange that they are having Bo Derek play herself and not just a character.
Through history, celebrities have been used as government spies because of their ability to gain access to places where others might not be able to travel. Also, no one bats an eye when a celebrity travels all over the world.
ReplyDeleteSo, Bo Derek being a spy or some such wouldn't be totally out there as a concept.
"So, Bo Derek being a spy or some such wouldn't be totally out there as a concept."
ReplyDeleteYes it would. Have you seen her act?
Or maybe her apparent lack of talent is a ploy. There you go. That's about as logical as Chuck ever needs to get.
Jim
On the subject of logic and Chuck, this whole being broke thing is starting to annoy me.
ReplyDelete$877M is A LOT of money. The approximate annual budget of the actual CIA is around $30-40B (google) with something like 20,000 employees, which works out to $2M/person/yr in total expenditure, and their hands are in pretty much everything globally. I know there's some overhead issues and startup costs and such, but are we really expected to believe that in a few months of operation, Carmichael Industries has had average per person expenditures 100 times that of the CIA?
As for the cost of running the Buymore, let's assume that Buymore = Best Buy in the real world. Best Buy has a total market capitalization of around $9B and over 1,000 stores worldwide. Again, the numbers are nonsensical for Chuck and company to be broke.
POTENTIAL SPOILER NOT YET PUBLISHED HERE:
Last bit of ranting regarding buying a house. Chuck and Sarah live in Echo Park, which is within about 30 minutes of both San Marino and La Crescenta, the two top rated school districts in the whole of California. Assume Chuck is thinking about these things, which he clearly is based on what we know about him. If he set aside 1 part in 500 of the money Volkov game them, that's $1.7M. While that won't get you a massive place in San Marino or Flintridge (the fancier part of La Canada), it will get you a nice house in either. The notion that Chuck couldn't have set that aside to buy a house for his wife and future kids is idiotic.
O.k. Rant over.
Jim
I have been apprehensive about the whole "running out of money" thing since first hearing about it. I feared that if I did the math it would get worse, so I filed it under "things I don't want to think too hard about".
ReplyDeleteIt's the same file where I have actual European train schedules because if I ever think about how fast you can get from Paris to Zurich on a train it ruins "Honeymooners" for me.
For "Honeymooners" maybe you can assume they just kept going back and forth between Paris and Zurich. Either that or there's a wormhole or something.
ReplyDeleteJim
P.S. My rant should have referenced La Canada, not La Crescenta. The latter is the next town over and even more affordable by current Bartowski standards.
You know the real reason they won't get a house is the same as why Devon and Ellie--two successful doctors--don't. You are not going to build new standing sets in the 5th year of a show that is losing money.
ReplyDeleteAll Chuck and Sarah (and the audience) needs is a bed and nothing else...we do not care where it is, if it has 4 walls, has a nieghbourhood, it could be in the middle of a park, highway, airport, bar, etc...just provide that with a little bit of action to go along. jeesh! LOL.
ReplyDeleteJim... get over it. They ran out of money. Next.
ReplyDeleteThe show thought it was going to get cancelled and so they threw a hail mary they never thought they would have to follow through on, lol. But to be fair! They have been throwing them since season 3 and how did that work out? they put chuck and sarah together, engaged them, married them! So one time they did two stupid things (morgansect and loads of money)..they are doing alright.
ReplyDelete"Jim... get over it. They ran out of money. Next."
ReplyDeleteBah! Humbug.
"So one time they did two stupid things (morgansect and loads of money)"
I think the loads of money was probably a mistake, but I don't really know about the Morgansect. It's all going to depend on execution. It might turn out to be a flash (heh) of brilliance.
Jim
Perhaps Chuck & Sarah due to their lack of business experience and money management spent a lot more than they should and are now broke.
ReplyDeleteThere was this guy that won 400 million dollars in powerball and spent all of it within a year.
Multi millionaires have lost their entire fortunes due to bad investments.
The entire premise of Chuck is more unrealistic than that.
Since when is Chuck ever been realistic.
It's an interesting concept that Chuck, Sarah, Casey and Morgan have to do things with no money and no help rather than all the money in the world.
Television is unrealistic compared to the real world.
I hated that they had the money in the first place, so I'm glad they are losing it.
ReplyDeleteThe casting so far just seems like they went around the room and asked who each had a crush on as a kid then casted them. Its probably not the worst way to go.
I cannot believe the season has not even started and people are already crapping on it...yikes! I suppose the next thing will be someone taking offence to the photo of Morgan and Sarah dancing! lol, do not worry peeps..nothing there...Chuck still gets the semi naked Sarah trying to unlock his lips...if only they actually get him out of those crappy clothes! I wish he could just wear suits, I hate the chucks and buymore rag, it does not do him any justice.
ReplyDeleteOMG, Gina. The shirts they have him wear are hideous. I would pay somebody to burn those stupid polos they put him in. Good money.
ReplyDeleteAlso if he put on 30 - 40 pounds of muscle on...Oh my lord...he would be like the perfect male specimen! Then again, he would be like twice Sarah's size, so....nah! he would be gorgeous, not that he is not now, but put a little bit of wieght on the legs and other areas...oh my lord!
ReplyDelete@Gina
ReplyDeleteI saw that photo too ! :) how awesome would it be if get to see a Sarah/Morgan dance scene like the famous lambada Sarah/Bryce scene with a big kiss in the end ? ! ? ! ? !
can't wait to see the first episode, please Magnus spoil us a little :)
I remember when I used to get so pissed off when people crapped on the show... but now I barely care. This is like senior year. I am enjoying the end but looking forward to it being over so I can move on... at least in some respect.
ReplyDeleteI am sure I will be posting CHUCK related news until I am 50.
@AdriaN`S
ReplyDeleteNot to be insensitive but a wise man once said that Kristen Kreuk is wayyyy toooo attractive for Joshua Gomez....sadly so is Yvonne Strahovski...I say that in the most pleasant way possible, so that is gonna be a no go. Plus Morgan would never do that to his best buddy, kiss his wife! it would be funny and a little creepy and a little odd/wierd a 6ft giant blonde shemale kissing a 5ft 2 midget...
Morgan would never, ever, in a million years, try to get with Sarah.
ReplyDeleteBros before hos.
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ReplyDeleteThat would be a good idea Adrian.
ReplyDeleteAdriaN'S, that would not be funny. First of all when Sarah kissed Bryce she was not in a relationship let alone MARRIED! second, she had a history with Bryce, thirdly..Morgan would not even do that to his Bro. Did you see in first fight that when he went to touch her heart, he actually only put his fingertips on her collarbone and it was so gentle I doubt that her shirt touched her skin...So no, I highly doubt Morgan will try and plaster one on Sarah. Unless he wants to die at the hands of Chuck, hehehe
ReplyDeleteIt's funny that people are noting height difference between Yvonne and Josh. When I watched the DVD extra with them together and Yvonne had flats on, the height difference wasn't that remarkable. She just has to wear really high heals most of the time on the show to pair up with Zac.
ReplyDeleteEr...Adrian's you just crossed a line...when Magnus reads that he will delete your comment. Read the rules before posting please.
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ReplyDeleteYou are pushing it.
ReplyDeleteBeauty is in the eye of the beholder...
ReplyDeleteGlad to hear about more Morgan and Sarah scenes
ReplyDeleteJoshua Gomez and Yvonne Strahovski are so good together
They are the best costars from Chuck in interviews and their behind the scenes footage from season five is so sexy,funny and sweet you can tell they have a blast spending time together
Can someone please post a link with the pictures of Morgan and Sarah dancing ? is there a video too ?
I am just going to enjoy next season. Won't even care about plausibility and such.
ReplyDeleteThe mantra of Chuck fans:
ReplyDeleteJune: "October can't come soon enough"
July: "I miss my Chuck"
August: "The wait is killing me"
September: "I dying here without Chuck"
October: "It's coming! Finally!"
November: "This season sucks"
I'm ambivalent about the "losing all the money" thing, although it bugs me a bit because it makes Chuck and Sarah look like morons. Although, I too avoid too much logical thought on it, I just try to laugh at the absurdity of those things and go with it. I've strangely been wondering about the housing thing all summer (I have a tendency to focus on the oddest details with this show). I came to pretty much the same conclusion as MediaSavant did- that budget wise it seemed impossible they would build a whole new set just for Chuck and Sarah to have sexytimes and conversation in. Also, I think story-wise it would be difficult. There are a lot of humorous situations and plot points that occur because all of the characters live within 10 ft of each other. Think about Devon running over to shove a gun down his pants and alert the CIA in Vs. The Leftovers. Stuff like that couldn't happen if one of the character groups, particularly Chuck and Sarah, lived someplace else.
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"Chuck fans don't respond well to changes"
ReplyDeleteI think it's more that the viewing public has been conditioned by 70 years of usually stagnant, boring TV to expect no changes at all. Kudos to Chuck for mixing things up now and then.
Jim
I think a small group of Chuck fans will dislike season 5 immensely because of Morgan being the intersect.
ReplyDeleteOn the IMDB message boards there was about five or six people saying how season 4 sucked and it was the worst season in the history of television.
If the episodes are otherwise good, funny and entertaining they will still dislike it simply because Morgan is the intersect and the shows not like it was during season 2.
So I expect negative responses from them and people like them.
I admit i don't like that Morgan is the intersect and i'm not feeling good that the final story arc that Decker was talking about will be any good.
It also appears Morgan will be keeping the Intersect longer than I had hoped.
Personally, I'm curious to see if the "last season" attitude has that much of an effect on people after the episodes air. I know personally I don't feel as worked up as I normally would over certain things I think might bug me. I'm wondering if other people are going in with the attitude of taking it easy on nitpicking things and just enjoying the final ride. One can hope...
ReplyDelete(sigh)
ReplyDeleteSlag on my buddy Josh like that again and I start deleting your comments without reading them.
ReplyDeleteIt is one thing to say "I don't like Morgan" blah blah blah... but belittle the actor directly and you make an exclusive list of people whose comments I will delete every time, until they stop posting.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous- your first problem is reading IMDB message boards. They are pointless crap.
ReplyDeleteWith regards to Chuck they are.
ReplyDeleteLearn when to stop talking.
ReplyDeleteThis AdriaN guy has been spewing crap about Yvonne, like personal attacks, all over the forums. I can tell by his sh*t grammar and general idiocy.
ReplyDeleteReally? Can you link to it so I can check it out?
ReplyDeleteHe is articulateSchnook. Read all his posts (if you can stomach it) I think he got kicked off, though.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.fanforum.com/f278/mrs-bartowski-sarah-%7C-yvonne-75-because-look-her-now-married-semi-normal-63018391/index12.html
Yep, it is definitely AdriaN'S. Same idiotic way of saying "I'l".
ReplyDeleteBANNED.
The M.O. did seem familiar.
ReplyDeleteWow. That is creepy as hell. Moving on now...
ReplyDeleteSince Chuck seems to be in a guest star frenzy mode, how about getting Bo Jackson and John Schneider in the same episode as Ms. Derek. They can play something by Bo Didley in the background. A veritable Bo-fecta.
Jim
This AdriaN'S guy/articulateSchnook is the same guy on IMDB trash talking the actors of chuck except Zac Levi.his mouth is spitting poison
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